Hello all.

I'm not sure exactly how to say this so here I go.

I hope transitioning members don't feel like they don't have anything to contribute to this forum once they make the decision to pursue HRT and maybe SRS. I think discussion concerning transitioning is very relevant here, especially since some members either join the forum with thoughts about transitioning or start thinking about it after taking NBE herbs. What I'm getting at is it's my wish that no transitioning members feels the pressure to self-exile because transitioning is their main focus as opposed to NBE.

Your thoughts?

Hello all.

I'm not sure exactly how to say this so here I go.

I hope transitioning members don't feel like they don't have anything to contribute to this forum once they make the decision to pursue HRT and maybe SRS. I think discussion concerning transitioning is very relevant here, especially since some members either join the forum with thoughts about transitioning or start thinking about it after taking NBE herbs. What I'm getting at is it's my wish that no transitioning members feels the pressure to self-exile because transitioning is their main focus as opposed to NBE.

Your thoughts?

Transitioning is my main focus but I like the additional natural method for breast enhancement. I think combining the two, with reasonable safeguards (blood tests etc) is a net positive.

~E

I thought at least HALF the reason for guys to be here was to eventually transition! I would think your "comment" would've been the reverse!! I.E:, telling non-transitionalists here that they, too, are welcome.

I thought at least HALF the reason for guys to be here was to eventually transition! I would think your "comment" would've been the reverse!! I.E:, telling non-transitionalists here that they, too, are welcome.

*chuckles* I have been a member of quite literally (several) hundreds of different forums over the years. If there is one thing I can say about this forum is it is the most accepting and friendly group of people I have ever met on the internet.

~E

On behalf of the others here, "Thank you!" :-) I'm sure we're all glad you like it so much!

Elain,

I appreciate your kind words about the forum. I haven't really participated in any other TG orientated forums, so I thank you for your feedback.

WantaPair,

I don't know what the statistics are for transitioning and non-transitioning on this forum. My thoughts are those who are absolutely certain on transitioning on day 1 would probably overlook this site in favor of one geared towards MtF transsexuals. After all, a MtF board would likely offer more resources on transitioning than say one devoted to breast enhancement.

It may be my own self-bias, but I regard NBE as being an ambiguous goal. I think this is evident how some members want to continue to present themselves as being a male for whatever reason, whether for others transitioning is the ultimate dream. GD can play out very differently for different individuals, just as something like depression.

True, I'm going by what I've seen here since I joined a year ago. A number of us that ONLY wanted tits have decided to go whole hog once they got them! Others here have known all their lives that they wanted to transition and found this as at least a stepping stone...a place where they could at LEAST grow their tits before getting any of the heavy hormones they need to go through many months, if not years of therapy to get. Maybe some of them will tell others in the midst's of early transitioning to stop by for a happy, helping hand on their way to womanhood! :-)

I hope transitioning members don't feel like they don't have anything to contribute to this forum once they make the decision to pursue HRT and maybe SRS.

Speaking for myself, all I can say is that being on HRT makes contributing to the "herbal side" rather difficult. What I am now doing is a lot simpler (and cheaper) than what you are all doing. I simply take my HRT with breakfast and then get on with the day. That is it. My AA is a depot injection once every three months and I know that these drugs are doing precisely what is needed. All this discussion of SP v Pygeum V skullcap v Peony etc etc and should it be rubbed, ingested, subligual, split dose, one dose and so on practically makes me dizzy.

So the NBE side is a non-starter for me and since it forms a very large part of the discussion here then a lot of what is on here simply passes me by.

I think discussion concerning transitioning is very relevant here, especially since some members either join the forum with thoughts about transitioning or start thinking about it after taking NBE herbs.

These are the remaining areas where I feel I can still contribute but there are not as many of these discussions as herbal ones.

What I'm getting at is it's my wish that no transitioning members feels the pressure to self-exile because transitioning is their main focus as opposed to NBE.

Your thoughts?

My thoughts.... well if you start down the HRT route you will likely wind up excluding yourself from a lot of the discussions here. As a full transition pushes me down the road to a female normality I find that even helping out with transition is becoming harder for me. "Normal" life is filling up all my spare time and I have less and less to spend attending groups or in online forums. "Self-exile" is not a goal, but it looks likely to happen simply because of normal life taking over.

I started here 2 years ago with what I now call the "great compromise". I was trying to be as feminine as I could (growing breasts & mental effect) but came to the long resisted conclusion that I couldn't pull that off and transition might be the only way for me to find peace and happiness. Like b.rose, I find myself thinking about SIMILAR things (breast enlargement) but my methods are now very different and my focus is much, much bigger than just breasts. Honestly, breasts are only a very small part of it now. For me at least, this forum has been a sounding board to air out my thoughts and feelings but I fear I'm getting so far from the focus of this forum, that very few of you are interested in hearing about my struggles, mental gymnastics and emotional moments. If your reason for being here is only to grow breasts, why would you want to hear me talk about such things as how fragile my identity is right now as I say goodbye to the facade I created over 44 years while trying to embrace my true identity as female? It's all I've been thinking and crying about for days now. Pursuing transition is a very different endeavor than NBE even though we may have common beginnings. For those who are here for the main purpose of growing breasts, this forum is first and foremost for you! I feel like I'M the one crashing YOUR party.

I started here 2 years ago with what I now call the "great compromise". I was trying to be as feminine as I could (growing breasts & mental effect) but came to the long resisted conclusion that I couldn't pull that off and transition might be the only way for me to find peace and happiness.

Been there, done that.....

... how fragile my identity is right now as I say goodbye to the facade I created over 44 years while trying to embrace my true identity as female? It's all I've been thinking and crying about for days now.

(((hugs)))

Shedding your former life is a very emotional thing to do and is beyond the capability of most people. To reject a firmly established identity and then to publicly construct a new one takes a lot of time and energy and the accompanying discussions (or arguments) can be very draining. Where you are now is not unusual and how you feel is not unusual either. This is one of those "it gets worse before it gets better" things but it does get better.

Pursuing transition is a very different endeavor than NBE even though we may have common beginnings.

This is definitely true. I no longer worry about my boobs showing through my clothes or getting erectile dysfunction or people noticing that I look different or my wife or family finding out. My inner identity is now firmly established as my outer identity and my big worries are the sorts of things any woman worries about - do I need my hair cut? Does this blouse show my boobs well enough? What should I get for dinner tonight? Will there be enough after Xmas to pay the bills? Mundane, simple, everyday stuff.