[julieTG]

Interesting ?

More of Julies musings , am afraid ,
 
While reading the Crossdreamer site , there is a thread which mentions
The wish and the need too transition,
If you’re a crossdreamer then you “may” have simply the wish and think your Transsexual when not, but if you are Transsexual then the wish may or will become a biological need.
Sometimes HRT is the only way to know ?
In other words some crossdreamers thought they were TS , went on low dose HRT and discovered they were not TS, and either stopped or continued at low dose,
Some opened and fuelled the Pandora box and very quickly discovered they were not crossdreamers and were in fact TS and now women,
Some, discovered they were crossdreamers and just carried on anyway as HRT made life easier,
What a tangled and bloody difficult life we lead
 
Julie

[Myranda]

Interesting ?

More of Julies musings , am afraid ,
 
While reading the Crossdreamer site , there is a thread which mentions
The wish and the need too transition,
If you’re a crossdreamer then you “may” have simply the wish and think your Transsexual when not, but if you are Transsexual then the wish may or will become a biological need.
Sometimes HRT is the only way to know ?
In other words some crossdreamers thought they were TS , went on low dose HRT and discovered they were not TS, and either stopped or continued at low dose,
Some opened and fuelled the Pandora box and very quickly discovered they were not crossdreamers and were in fact TS and now women,
Some, discovered they were crossdreamers and just carried on anyway as HRT made life easier,
What a tangled and bloody difficult life we lead
 
Julie

Julie, this is exactly where I am right now.  I m in this dream state and am terrified to wake up and find out the "truth"  and is what I had been talking to my therapist and GD about early this year. As long as I have been monitoring my T (about 5 years now, it has never been much above 500, even when on Clomid when the wife and I were going through IVF. Off of Clomid it is down to about 200 or so. So I hink what scares the hell out of me, is that if I start HRT, that I will react very well or quickly to the E.

[polymorphis]

Hi Julie,

this is an interesting topic. It would mean there are basically two distinct populations with different reactions to HRT.

Either way the logical conclusion for everyone that feels like that is to start HRT as soon as possible. In one case it would quell the obsession and in other case it would lead to sooner transition with possibly better results. Either way it would lead to better quality of life...

Or not?

Poly

[Myranda]

Hi Julie,

this is an interesting topic. It would mean there are basically two distinct populations with different reactions to HRT.

Either way the logical conclusion for everyone that feels like that is to start HRT as soon as possible. In one case it would quell the obsession and in other case it would lead to sooner transition with possibly better results. Either way it would lead to better quality of life...

Or not?

Poly

Poly, exactly my connumdrum.  I have no idea what to do.  I mean this seems to support the idea that I should start HRT.  But gah, s till scary.  I mean it will either be absolutely horrible and unbearable, or mean that I have been lying to myself for so long, (either intenionally this last year or so, or unintentionally my whole life).

I guess I know what I'm talking to my therapist about next week.

[Myranda]

Julie,  can you post a link to the thread?  I'd very much like to read through it prior to meeting with my therapist next week.

[shaneny]

This is where seeing a therapist is important. I think many of us test the waters with PM or BO on our own and its not until we decide to transition that we finally see a therapist. I've been in that boat with a few of my trans friends saying I should go see a therapist. I keep balking because I know that will start to put things in motion that I'm not entirely ready for yet. 


However, I think for any of us that start to think hrt is going to "fix" things, definitely need to see a therapist and talk things through first. We can only get so much guidance from forums.

[Myranda]

This is where seeing a therapist is important. I think many of us test the waters with PM or BO on our own and its not until we decide to transition that we finally see a therapist. I've been in that boat with a few of my trans friends saying I should go see a therapist. I keep balking because I know that will start to put things in motion that I'm not entirely ready for yet. 


However, I think for any of us that start to think hrt is going to "fix" things, definitely need to see a therapist and talk things through first. We can only get so much guidance from forums.

I have been seeing a Therapist for a while now about this and other issues.  Through my therapist, I thought I had come to an understanding of what was driving these types of thoughts.  But a lot of it is all interconnected in my psyche, and it has all come to a head.  my current personal situation has not helped any, and in part was caused by all of this, so it is a vicious cycle.

[The First Aria]

Myranda, you are on point about the "vicious cycle".  To be, or not to be has been a question, I think, for many of us for a long time.  My Therapist suggested that even going on light HRT could show a person rather it's all in their heads.....  like a passing fad, or rather it's the greatest thing for the person involved.

[EndlessEden_mn2010]

don't forget myranda, when I came here. I wanted nothing other than breasts to feel whole. 

it's when I started the herbs and started thinking clearly "wait, why would any self respecting 'man' wants boobs... but I really don't want boobs, I want to be accepted as a woman"

boobs don't make a gender or a person, either does hormones. it's your personality and choices that do.

the moment you stop questioning what if's of growth and realize no one gives a fck. It's your body and mind. do what you need, not what fear tells you...

you will start going down the path you need and save yourself and others alot of pain. whether that's remaining male with some or no breast growth...

 Or seeing how deep the rabbit hole really goes...

[VergeOfDiscovery]

Re: wait, why would any self respecting 'man' wants boobs...

That's a good question to wrestle with if that question arises in one's heart and mind...in the wide ranging spectrum of what is possible among different sorts of people, no doubt at least some 'self respecting' men will want boobs for their own sake.

Pondering that now, if some nice gent confided in me that he wanted boobs simply because he liked them (and that's it), knowing that this is not generally the norm we are used to, I'd be inclined to think this was someone with a pretty intense self respect.

Have yet to meet such a one in person, but I think I might if having a checkup and Dr. says you have some growth there, are you looking to transition (or anything remotely similar among a range of questions). And the reply is: Not necessarily, I just like them.