[Heaven's Night]

I thought I'd update here too so this wont get lost in my main thread. I have two new ideas for herbal enchanement on the TCP protocol. In a similar fashion as how cayenne and red clover extracts can be used, maybe here's something to test out. We know the effect of ginseng from the Ginseng & Cayenne & Lemon tincture from Lotus, I've tested it for quite long time and I know ginseng in my NBE program has been useful before, cayenne extract has twofold use in TCP as it contains strong alcohol and ton of capsaicin.

I thought, why not try a ginseng extract used in same fashion as cayenne and RC? Quote: ginseng initiates the cAMP/PKA/CREB pathway which is a major breast growing pathway. I'm quoting Lotus from her advice on the tincture, its well established fact by this point that topical application works fantastically, the basis of the program is sound, tried and tested, absorbtion enhancements are also working well, albeit I'm the only one who's doing the full program right now I think?

So, my thought is to add ginseng extract into the mix, apply five drops per breast on areolas just like RC and Cayenne extracts.

And the second idea is to use Goats rue extract in a similar manner. It evelates prolactin levels and it helps to build breast tissue (About this I should try to find a study to quote as I don't have one saved.)

i thought to give these two ingredients a try when I can afford them. Ginseng extract isn't insanely expensive either and ten drops per day will make 30ml bottle last for several months. Worth trying I think. I'll see if I can get started soon and see how it works.

[eve_phedrina]

Just a quick question on the side: where do you girls buy Volufiline?
I can't find a reliable website shipping to Belgium besides some sites asking over €70 for a small bottle...

[Heaven's Night]

Just a quick question on the side: where do you girls buy Volufiline?
I can't find a reliable website shipping to Belgium besides some sites asking over €70 for a small bottle...

YESSTYLE used to be nice with discounts but their proces jumped, but check them out. I've ordered many of the small bottles from there. And the larger one which is the most affordable I've got from Amazon Germany, they have multiple options and I've got the 60ml bottle twice. You can easily make that last for six months so its well worth the price. Problem with Volufiline is that its expensive no matter what, at least that bigger bottle from Amazon is affordable.

[eve_phedrina]

Just a quick question on the side: where do you girls buy Volufiline?
I can't find a reliable website shipping to Belgium besides some sites asking over €70 for a small bottle...

YESSTYLE used to be nice with discounts but their proces jumped, but check them out. I've ordered many of the small bottles from there. And the larger one which is the most affordable I've got from Amazon Germany, they have multiple options and I've got the 60ml bottle twice. You can easily make that last for six months so its well worth the price. Problem with Volufiline is that its expensive no matter what, at least that bigger bottle from Amazon is affordable.

Thanks for the information. I couldn't find the 60ml on amazon.de so I've ordered from YESSTYLE....

[Heaven's Night]

Thanks for the information. I couldn't find the 60ml on amazon.de so I've ordered from YESSTYLE....

Look this one up, they have several different quantities. Then htere's also another brand which is similar, the one that I got right now. https://www.amazon.com/CELDYQUE-100-Volu...B0CPLDVTFP

Someone was thinking about getting the raw stuff that Volufiline is made of and use it instead, I tried to look for a source but couldn't find it. The cost is somewhat prohibitive, that's the only reason why I'm using it on small doses, but 100% oil is quite strong stuff compared to diluted ones so its likely enough. The important thing about Volufiline is that it absorbs badly on its own, but with absorbtion enhancement like mild concentration of DMSO could help with skin penetration enough to make better use of it.

So far my experiment on suing DSMO for absobrtion and its potential in aiding fat cell division has been very successful. I've been on it for thirteen months and Volufiline one month longer. I think this combo is amazing, but on face, I would just do dermarolling and then volufiline with maybe something else to aid absorbtion as DMSO makes skin more elastic. But on boobs + hips + butt, its working really nicely.

Volufiline is very likely to work amazingly well with Red Clover extract as both poke around with PPAR-gamma and both have a cumulative effect which I think is being proven correct on both. My breast development has been feeling like its speeding up since doing the latest changes to TCP. I'm yut to try the Ginseng extract but likely will be able to within a month or so, so fifth year on HRT starts with an experiement. One more thing I haven't tried yet is a topical anto androgen. 

[nobody1985]

Hi,

could someone distill down the main points of this thread, is pretty long.
I have only estrogen and progesterone cream at hand, what does that threat tell me about application.
Thank you.

[Heaven's Night]

The core of the program is very simple, DHEA as micronised powder or cream, Progesterone as raw powder, gel from capsules or cream. This is the key to the whole thing. How and why are already explained quite well. DHEA and Prog couple well with also estradiol gel. This I would say is the simplest way to do the topical protocol. 

What I do differently is adding absorbtion enchaners, main piece is DMSO cream which has low to moderate concentration, I've used 20% and 25% versions. Dermarolling also boosts absorbtion and it might have an effect on hepatocyte growth factor levels as well as it does micro level damage to the skin. Also I'm doing the caynne extract with Bovine Ovary and the 70% alcohol in it also helps to soften the skin barrier which allows greater absobrtion, as does estrogel as it also contains stuff to aid absorbtion. 

This I think is very useful as there are multiple ways on how to do it, so even small doses can become rather effective. 

I'm also using Red Clover extract the way Lotus has outlined, it works in multiple ways, it does cool stuff with prog, its a PPAR-y booster, as is Volufiline. (PPAR-gamma is part of the protein chain that deals with adipogenesis, that's fat cell formation.) Local IGF-1 (insulin like growth factor one) levels can be helped by using topical vitamin D3 oil. HGF levels are likely affected by dermarolling and capsiacin from cayenne extract, this hasn't been studied or I haven't found such study, but experiementation has been promising. 

I just yesterday started to add ten drops of ginseng extract the the topical mix, knowing that it deals with breast growth hormonal pathways. 

Anyway, this got a little drwan out as well, but that first paragraph is the shortest answer to your question. If you want to know how and why exactly, then you have to take your time and read. Its been all laid out here before and even more is on Lotus's Project X thread.