[dargona]

to answer your earlier question:
I'm not quite clear on this... if you can't tell a difference in your full-functioning, why did you try to use Maca to sustain a "horny level"? Work the same as what?

It sounds to me like there is a difference now to a previous time?

... When I see the term full-functioning, in my head I'm thinking that means the ability to use your penis for what it's used for: sexual stimulation/reproduction. So yes, while my random erections have dropped to a minimal/zero level my "full-function" i guess in one sense has changed but to me it's still "fully-functional" I think it's just a difference in how I read the term originally compared to how it's being used.

Honestly the lack of random erections comes at no loss to me, I always found them quite irritating and they seemed to happen at the most socially awkward moments. What's more important to me is that I can still "get it hard" when I need to. If that ever became a problem I would either lower my dose of PM or find an alternative; simple as that!

Another edit by me -- I really should get everything out the first time ....
... As for the Maca, I introduced it previously for two reasons:
1.) Butt
2.) Libido

As for 1.) I've always had a full butt, and I've gotten (good) comments on it from both and female friends. I'm happy with it and at the same time I've heard Maca helps shape the butt so why the hell not?
2.) At first the lack of erections from taking PM wasn't necessarily shocking per say, as this was a topic well discussed on the boards, but it was different than anything I had experienced before... Once again it was a well discussed topic that Maca is used to improve libido. I'll just say that when I was taking it before -- Some of the random erections returned, and felt a lot friskier when with my wife (back to full-function? state)

So why did I stop Maca? I don't have a reason really other than I was trying to bring my herbal program back down to a controlled level and introduce dosage variance in a more controlled way. Also I am a long-time sufferer of headaches/possible migraines and coincidentally around the time I was taking Maca I had the worse migraine that I've ever experienced in my life. I took a break from it (roughly a month or more) and I just started taking it again about a week ago. I've also since masturbated a few times (which is an increase) and watched a little porn as well.

Because of this, there is no doubt in my mind that maca does in fact improve libido -- and it's doing so even through high doses of PM. I'm watching closely for any connections to severe headaches and migraines too, and if I have another incident even close to the last one then I may lower my maca dose to see if it helps.

[blackwings76]

Hi bryony and blackwings76,

Depending on how strong the extract is, 50 mg isoflavones could be a very high dose. For instance: we recently concluded that the miroestrol content in PM is about 100 parts per million (ppm). Suppose you take 50 mg of pure miroestrol: that is equivalent to 500 g PM dried herb!

oh thank you so much Isabelle, that is the exact information i was trying to get before start, 8 days ago, i was trying to know 50mg of isoflavones how much is in PM, as i know the usual dose of PM is 500mg twice a date.

what dose do u think is good to take? 25mg ? 12.5 mg of isoflavones,
i am also taking a soup spoon of Flaxseed twice a day.

do u know a page where compare isoflavones with pm ?

thanks in advance.

[blackwings76]

While on PM: I don't have my breasts in mind, or my penis, or where I'm going to have sex next and how it's going down, etc etc. I mean occasionally if I'm in the proper mood I can and will think about each of these individually but for the most part my daily thought process is now focused on other things.

i was starting to feel in the same way, can only 7 days produce that effect?

[dargona]

While on PM: I don't have my breasts in mind, or my penis, or where I'm going to have sex next and how it's going down, etc etc. I mean occasionally if I'm in the proper mood I can and will think about each of these individually but for the most part my daily thought process is now focused on other things.

i was starting to feel in the same way, can only 7 days produce that effect?

I feel as though the mind can produce a lot of effects. I don't remember how long it took me before I noticed this, but I'm sure it's possible within 7 days to some degree.

[julieTG]

It can in some people yes as the mind kicks in as well as t being lowered, then sometimes t kicks back in as a defence and libido accelerates

Julie
Ps
The mind is a very powerful tool be careful what you wish for

[blackwings76]

Ps
The mind is a very powerful tool be careful what you wish for

my wish is to be very femenine and male functional hopes comes true .D

[blackwings76]

While on PM: I don't have my breasts in mind, or my penis, or where I'm going to have sex next and how it's going down, etc etc. I mean occasionally if I'm in the proper mood I can and will think about each of these individually but for the most part my daily thought process is now focused on other things.

i was starting to feel in the same way, can only 7 days produce that effect?

I feel as though the mind can produce a lot of effects. I don't remember how long it took me before I noticed this, but I'm sure it's possible within 7 days to some degree.

as isabelle told before 50mg of isoflabones could be a high dose, i will try a less dose in a few days

regards .)

[Isabelle]

Hi blackwings76,

That depends entirely on the label of the isoflavones:
- is it 100 % isoflavones?
- is it 10:1? 4:1? 100:1?
- is it a solid or a liquid extract?
- what is the recommended dose?
- is it soy isoflavones?

In my program thread, I referenced one publication that compares soy with hops and flax, and another that compares hops and PM. The differences are not big. People are using too much soy. Start at 0.05 mg, if you have 100 % pure isoflavones.

[bryony]

You mention cost vs risk which is something that I left out of the equation: Yes cost can be a huge factor involved in any GRS/SRS, but even if I had the money and had a 100% that nothing would go wrong, I still wouldn't put myself through full transition.

Sorry, what I meant by cost/benefit analysis didn't mean financial, (though of course that is a factor). What I meant was gain in terms of increased quality of life from an orchiectomy, when you have a lot of feminisation and an active heterosexual sex life, as set against potential losses in terms of decreased quality of life , or even life itself, if you have to start using pharma hormones rather than herbal. Once you get the medical team involved, I feel it is a slippery slope from then on.

From what I see, pharmaceuticals entail all sorts of risks, which warrant serious and deep study and advice from unvested interests (which excludes most medical professionals); you would need to contact people who've had orchiectomies and find out not only the success stories, but the tragedies, and try to gauge the risks you would be taking.

Then, feed that risk into the cost/benefit analysis that I referred to above.

Hope this wasn't a TLDR!

B.x

[blackwings76]

Hi blackwings76,

That depends entirely on the label of the isoflavones:
- is it 100 % isoflavones?
- is it 10:1? 4:1? 100:1?
- is it a solid or a liquid extract?
- what is the recommended dose?
- is it soy isoflavones?

In my program thread, I referenced one publication that compares soy with hops and flax, and another that compares hops and PM. The differences are not big. People are using too much soy. Start at 0.05 mg, if you have 100 % pure isoflavones.

hi Isabelle!!,

well the prospect says, is say isoflavones, come in pills, and the recomended dose is 50 mg a day in 1 take or 2 takes of 25 mg each.

does not mention about 10:1, 4:1, 100:1 and if it is pure isoflavones.

still do you think is 0.05 per day a good dose?

thanks in advance.