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Just a follow up on my experimentation so far with PM, herbal t blockers and bi-est cream. I discontinued the PM so as not to overtax my body in combination with the other stuff, still haven't tried the t blockers because the white peony seal was broken and I'm leary about the licorice. The real standout is that bi-est cream, got it otc also from amazon. Has 1 mg of Estradiol and 4 mg Estriol per pump and been rubbing in to my balls twice daily as I've seen tried by a few people, it works fast without a doubt but concerned about the actual dosage and safety. Tits are painful, hard and bigger within 3 days of taking this stuff. Need to take a break and regroup because I can tell this delivers serious hormones and don't want my boobs getting out of hand, may opt for estrogel in the near future to at least know the actual dosage.