[Eloise]

Lotus,

 thank you for your comments.  

I haven’t had any labs done recently.  I’m going to get some done in the next month and I’ll share them with you!  

Currently I’m taking 4mg Prog and dissolving it under my tongue (2mg every 8hrs or so),  100mg Spiro but I just order Dutasteride and will replace Spiro with that when it arrives.  Also I take about 3000mg MSM, 5000iu D3, calcium, and 200mg Progesterone orally.  Perhaps I switch to the cream method and massage it into the boobies 

I also try to have a protein shake or protein bar to ensure my protein intake is solid.  

A while ago we were messaging and you talked about ginseng.  I feel when I take it a sense of calm and focus but what’s it’s impact on breast development and/or feminization?  

It makes me happy to see you on here  take care!

[Eloise]

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Just a quick update.  Nothing too new.  Same routine.

[Ninja]

Looking good, areola and nipples look great you have such a thin frame boob continued boob development will look very feminine 

[CM213]

Wow amazing. They look great.

[Lotus]

Just a quick update.  Nothing too new.  Same routine.

Hi Eloise, sorry I missed you're last update. If there's anything I can help with please let me know, miss you. 

[Eloise]

Hi there!!! No worries on the missed update.  I’ll post one soon.  But, yes, you could help correct me if I’m wrong in the following analysis.

How to grow boobs?  There are a few signaling pathways involved.  These pathways are a series of molecular events and interactions within a cell that translates external signals into specific cellular responses.  In boob growth there are 3-primary pathways.

The estrogen pathway is the most important.  I take 6mg of E2 because, obviously I don’t have ovaries.  The E2 binds to the estrogen receptors.  This begins the process that influences breast tissue etc..
 
The progesterone pathway is the next important. This leads to the development of lobules and alveoli in the breast as well as ductal growth.  This all helps ‘round out’ the breast.  I take 100mg of P4 for this.

The IGF-1 pathway is also important.  This pathway stimulates the proliferation of mammary epithelial cells by increasing the expression of genes involved in cell progression.  Furthermore, it influences the development of ductal and lobular structures in the breast.  It can work synergistically with estrogen to promote growth.  It works to amplify estrogen-driven effects of breast tissue.  Pretty important, right?  So how can we influence IGF-1?  A few ways that I’ve come across: Forskolin, Arginine, Vitamin D, Omega-3, panic ginseng, and Green Tea Extract.  I take the standard, bottle recommended doses.  1000mg arginine, 500 Forskolin, 2000mg fish oil, 5000iu Vitamin D3.

I’ve come to believe that Forskolin is really important.  Not only does it enhance thr IGF-1 pathway, it also activates adenylate cyclase which converts ATP to cAMP and thus impacts secondary singing.

There are also downstream signaling pathways like MAPK/ERK, PI3K/Akt, JAK/STAT that are also important and are largely impacted by those items I listed that impacted IGF-1.

But we also need to quash T.  So I take a combo of Bica and Duta.  Bica inhibits actions of androgens by blocking their receptors thus reducing DHT. Duta inhibits 5-alpha reductase which converts T into DHT.  So I try to run a zone defense that blitzes, respectively.  

So, Lotus, what am I wrong, missing, etc?  And what could I add or subtract to improve?  

[Lotus]

How to grow boobs?  There are a few signaling pathways involved.  These pathways are a series of molecular events and interactions within a cell that translates external signals into specific cellular responses.  In boob growth there are 3-primary pathways.

The estrogen pathway is the most important.  I take 6mg of E2 because, obviously I don’t have ovaries.  The E2 binds to the estrogen receptors.  This begins the process that influences breast tissue etc..
 
The progesterone pathway is the next important. This leads to the development of lobules and alveoli in the breast as well as ductal growth.  This all helps ‘round out’ the breast.  I take 100mg of P4 for this.

The IGF-1 pathway is also important.  This pathway stimulates the proliferation of mammary epithelial cells by increasing the expression of genes involved in cell progression.  Furthermore, it influences the development of ductal and lobular structures in the breast.  It can work synergistically with estrogen to promote growth.  It works to amplify estrogen-driven effects of breast tissue.  Pretty important, right?  So how can we influence IGF-1?  A few ways that I’ve come across: Forskolin, Arginine, Vitamin D, Omega-3, panic ginseng, and Green Tea Extract.  I take the standard, bottle recommended doses.  1000mg arginine, 500 Forskolin, 2000mg fish oil, 5000iu Vitamin D3.

I’ve come to believe that Forskolin is really important.  Not only does it enhance thr IGF-1 pathway, it also activates adenylate cyclase which converts ATP to cAMP and thus impacts secondary singing.

There are also downstream signaling pathways like MAPK/ERK, PI3K/Akt, JAK/STAT that are also important and are largely impacted by those items I listed that impacted IGF-1.

But we also need to quash T.  So I take a combo of Bica and Duta.  Bica inhibits actions of androgens by blocking their receptors thus reducing DHT. Duta inhibits 5-alpha reductase which converts T into DHT.  So I try to run a zone defense that blitzes, respectively.  

So, Lotus, what am I wrong, missing, etc?  And what could I add or subtract to improve?  

Hi E, you're post is spot on.   seeing you've been on E2 tablets for sometime I'd recommend graduating to IM or SubQ (my choice) injections of EV (estradiol valerate) for better breast growth and feminization. Additionally, start the Topical cream program. There's other things to add that I'll be covering about the topical cream program asap. It's so good to hear from you. 

[Eloise]

Lotus, great to get confirmation I’m doing the right thing!! 

I’m not sure if injections are in the cards right now.  I wish I could. 

Anywho, here’s a visual update.  It looks like not much is happening but they are getting denser and I can better fill out my bra 

   
   

[Eloise]

It’s been a hot minute.  Hope all are well.  

Morning:
1000mg L-arginine 
500 Forskolin
D3
B6
Dutas 
2mg E2
100mg P4

Afternoon:
Omega-3
2mg E2
Ginseng 

Evening:
Zinc
Magnesium 
Evening Primrose Oil
2mg E2
100mg P4

In the past two weeks I ran out of my Dutas and had to go the old RR and GTE anti androgen route.  Sucking down 10+ capsules sucks.  I recently got restocked with Bica and will do Bica + Duta (when Duta arrives)and White Peony and Turmeric for Aromatase.  I’ll have to rely on Aromatase the next few weeks while waiting for more E2 to arrive.  I just ran out today  

   
   

[Ninja]

Very nice development great areola