Jeez, I'm so bad at quitting PM.
About 20 days ago I stopped PM "for good", again. After 20 days there are pros and cons:
Pros:
- my sex drive is back in full force. I can write better TG erotica
- my body has gone back to a more masculine shape
Cons:
- my sex drive is back in full force... But family life with a young baby doesn't allow for much release. I am trying to reduce DIY to a minimum but my wife's desire for intercourse seems to be a lot less than mine. So, essentially, I am horny 24/7. It's not that I dislike it too much, but while on PM I felt a lot calmer from this point of view.
- my body has gone back to a more masculine shape... Not meaning that I lost breast tissue, which at this point is probably permanent, but my band size has increased again while on PM is got snaller. My body is going back from a mild hourglass figure to a cylindrical one. The reason why this is "good" is that I will soon have to see family and friends I haven't seen in a while and a different body shape would be suspicious, same for the swimming pool. The reason why this is bad is that all my bras are getting too tight again in the band and I sort of miss the shape I was achieving.
- another bad thing is that my body hair is going back to being super thick. I have sensitive skin so they curl and pinch me everywhere. I really hate this.
So.... I am probably buying it again. Damn! Considering the slow rate of growth, I sort of think that the pros are outdoing the cons.
I'll buy it at the end of Dec, so I expect to see it delivered at the end of Jan. After that I will decide dosage and goals.
About 20 days ago I stopped PM "for good", again. After 20 days there are pros and cons:
Pros:
- my sex drive is back in full force. I can write better TG erotica
- my body has gone back to a more masculine shape
Cons:
- my sex drive is back in full force... But family life with a young baby doesn't allow for much release. I am trying to reduce DIY to a minimum but my wife's desire for intercourse seems to be a lot less than mine. So, essentially, I am horny 24/7. It's not that I dislike it too much, but while on PM I felt a lot calmer from this point of view.
- my body has gone back to a more masculine shape... Not meaning that I lost breast tissue, which at this point is probably permanent, but my band size has increased again while on PM is got snaller. My body is going back from a mild hourglass figure to a cylindrical one. The reason why this is "good" is that I will soon have to see family and friends I haven't seen in a while and a different body shape would be suspicious, same for the swimming pool. The reason why this is bad is that all my bras are getting too tight again in the band and I sort of miss the shape I was achieving.
- another bad thing is that my body hair is going back to being super thick. I have sensitive skin so they curl and pinch me everywhere. I really hate this.
So.... I am probably buying it again. Damn! Considering the slow rate of growth, I sort of think that the pros are outdoing the cons.
I'll buy it at the end of Dec, so I expect to see it delivered at the end of Jan. After that I will decide dosage and goals.
This post was last modified: 26-11-2018, 09:27 PM by Shirazmn.
Jumping into your thread after going back and reading this. Yes, as you mentioned, our stories are similar. I'd read this thread before I wrote mine but had forgotten just how similar it was.
Regarding hair regrowth, my thought was this:
What about focussing on blocking DHT with reishi mushroom and "supplementing" it with a very low dose of PM (maybe 500 mg every few days). Seems like you'd have the potential for hair growth, without bodily feminization and would probably experience a very low (if any) loss of libido.
I'm interested in the vascular benefits of both PM and reishi, since arteriosclerosis has occurred in my family and I have high cholesterol, so that would be a side benefit if you share either of those concerns.
Just a thought.
Regarding hair regrowth, my thought was this:
What about focussing on blocking DHT with reishi mushroom and "supplementing" it with a very low dose of PM (maybe 500 mg every few days). Seems like you'd have the potential for hair growth, without bodily feminization and would probably experience a very low (if any) loss of libido.
I'm interested in the vascular benefits of both PM and reishi, since arteriosclerosis has occurred in my family and I have high cholesterol, so that would be a side benefit if you share either of those concerns.
Just a thought.
(11-12-2018, 07:01 PM)Nipply Russel Wrote: Jumping into your thread after going back and reading this. Yes, as you mentioned, our stories are similar. I'd read this thread before I wrote mine but had forgotten just how similar it was.
Regarding hair regrowth, my thought was this:
What about focussing on blocking DHT with reishi mushroom and "supplementing" it with a very low dose of PM (maybe 500 mg every few days). Seems like you'd have the potential for hair growth, without bodily feminization and would probably experience a very low (if any) loss of libido.
I'm interested in the vascular benefits of both PM and reishi, since arteriosclerosis has occurred in my family and I have high cholesterol, so that would be a side benefit if you share either of those concerns.
Just a thought.
That's some good thinking. I am not sure about cholesterol. The last time I checked it was... never. Sooner or later I will...
About Reishi (or any other method) there are two or three things:
1) If it worked properly it would be advertised everywhere and the person that discovered that it regrows hair would get a Nobel prize (and would be very rich).
2) PM is the first thing that has ever caused some doment follicles to wake up on my head. So, from this point of view I wouldn't change it. It's not just about not losuing more hair (less DHT conversion) but it's really about waking up those dorment follicles and I don't think that Reishi does that.
3) The fetish side of me really like that side effect that comes with hair regrowth... you know... the chance that PM may "also" grow some boobs on you
(11-12-2018, 11:47 PM)Shirazmn Wrote: About Reishi (or any other method) there are two or three things:
1) If it worked properly it would be advertised everywhere and the person that discovered that it regrows hair would get a Nobel prize (and would be very rich).
2) PM is the first thing that has ever caused some doment follicles to wake up on my head. So, from this point of view I wouldn't change it. It's not just about not losuing more hair (less DHT conversion) but it's really about waking up those dorment follicles and I don't think that Reishi does that.
3) The fetish side of me really like that side effect that comes with hair regrowth... you know... the chance that PM may "also" grow some boobs on you
Ah, yes, but I'm not saying that Reishi regrows hair. It looks like you/me/we can regrow some hair at the expense of additional feminization by using PM. Once that hair is regrown, Reishi should help prevent it from falling out. Like any DHT blocker, such as Finasteride. That's not really revolutionary and we won't get rich off of it because most men don't want to take estrogen for a year in order to regrow their hair prior to backing off and taking the blocker to retain the hair they've grown.
I'm not 100% sure, but I seem to have a few follicles popping lower down on my forehead. If I start to notice definite growth, I'll hang in for as long as possible, then back of significantly and continue with the Reishi. This system is better than Minoxidil, as I've been using it for decades and it sure as heck didn't regrow anything.
Hi, Russel,
Have you looked into other options as well?
Sandalwood oil seems to help, for instance. (Trying it now, over a month and no results, fairly regular use, but the hairs have been gone for quite some time.)
Also seen examples of pulped onions working to regrow hair, applied regularly for about three months (it's a sulfur compound, I understand, in both onions and garlic. A one-month not-so-reliable use trail didn't change my hairline, but it did feel good - but smelled of onions. I'm curious about Tar shampoo perhaps having those same sulfides in it? No research to date.)
Finasteride can have some ugly side effects. Dutasteride as well. Used both - no noticeable difference. It's possible that, especially for men, there is just an issue with the way the scalp gets stretched, and some of us just got the short end of the stick. But I HAVE noticed the massage itself breaks down the constrictive tissues and allows more blood flow, ensuring that the hair follicles get more oxygen/ blood flow.
PM and estrogen also change the tension in the scalp, sometimes allowing regrowth, as you're suggesting.
I had a receded hairline since I was in my teens, it' possible I'm just SOL.
But I'm still trying! :-)
But also in the closet, sort of, as I'm rotund with breasts that pass as fat for now...
:-P
-Dianna
Have you looked into other options as well?
Sandalwood oil seems to help, for instance. (Trying it now, over a month and no results, fairly regular use, but the hairs have been gone for quite some time.)
Also seen examples of pulped onions working to regrow hair, applied regularly for about three months (it's a sulfur compound, I understand, in both onions and garlic. A one-month not-so-reliable use trail didn't change my hairline, but it did feel good - but smelled of onions. I'm curious about Tar shampoo perhaps having those same sulfides in it? No research to date.)
Finasteride can have some ugly side effects. Dutasteride as well. Used both - no noticeable difference. It's possible that, especially for men, there is just an issue with the way the scalp gets stretched, and some of us just got the short end of the stick. But I HAVE noticed the massage itself breaks down the constrictive tissues and allows more blood flow, ensuring that the hair follicles get more oxygen/ blood flow.
PM and estrogen also change the tension in the scalp, sometimes allowing regrowth, as you're suggesting.
I had a receded hairline since I was in my teens, it' possible I'm just SOL.
But I'm still trying! :-)
But also in the closet, sort of, as I'm rotund with breasts that pass as fat for now...
:-P
-Dianna
@Nipply Russel I see through your plan now. Makes sense. Let's make it to the end of phase one and then, when I'll have a new headfull of hair, I will consider Reishi
Like Dianna I tried a couple of things in the past to slow down hair loss (I started losing hair at 16) but nothing worked to be honest. I haven't tried the onion thing but I believe that my social life would get in the way...
Unrelated to the hair thing, but related to my "Updates" otiginal post, I have now restarted PM. Today I took 1500 mg (500 AM, 500 Noon, 500 6PM) and I will do so for about 10 days, and then break again while I am on holiday until January.
The first unpleasant thing I noticed is that every time I took one pill, after 20 minutes I had to rush to the toilet with a bad stomach. It happened in the past but I hope it stops when I get used to PM again.
I am now using the (in)famous Ainterol 20 years anniversary version. Let's see if it works as well as their d-pure.
Like Dianna I tried a couple of things in the past to slow down hair loss (I started losing hair at 16) but nothing worked to be honest. I haven't tried the onion thing but I believe that my social life would get in the way...
Unrelated to the hair thing, but related to my "Updates" otiginal post, I have now restarted PM. Today I took 1500 mg (500 AM, 500 Noon, 500 6PM) and I will do so for about 10 days, and then break again while I am on holiday until January.
The first unpleasant thing I noticed is that every time I took one pill, after 20 minutes I had to rush to the toilet with a bad stomach. It happened in the past but I hope it stops when I get used to PM again.
I am now using the (in)famous Ainterol 20 years anniversary version. Let's see if it works as well as their d-pure.
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