[IanW55]

Hell BN

Been using Red Clover oil for 32 days, 10 drops per breast twice a day days, I think there is some slight changes, but I think its my age and before I started I was probably to manly.

I have gone though the forum and I cannot find the thread about combining BO & PM, what I have read is very conflicting, I know Lotus said that using both together it will clash with the receptors, yet some say its ok if you just take PM at a lower dose.

I have also read that you can add pituitary supplemts to help.
Please comment
Thanks
Ian

[Heaven's Night]

Just forget about PM and definitely do not mix PM and BO together. Both would be wasted effort as better methods exist.

[IanW55]

Hi Lara,
Thanks for quick response, as you have been down that road I will bow to your advice
Ian

[IanW55]

Hello,

Quick question for Lara (please) As you know i am on BO and looks like there are some positive results, okay only small but some is better than nothing.

Is it ok to add Red Reishi into the mix.

Thanks
Ian

[wee2er]

Hi Ian,
RR is fine with BO, it s an anti androgen. 
Our bodies convert a small percentage of T to DHT, which is the most potent form of T. It's responsible for hair loss.
So taking enough RR that being up to 1500mg/day will significantly lower your DHT.
When I was on it II added green tea and  did see some hair regrowth.

[IanW55]

Thanks wee2er, thought I could but better ask first
Ian

[IanW55]

Hello,

Got back from hospital (again) spending more time there than my own home.

In previous post's I said that I have issues with mt testicles and other parts, well blood tests and MRI and ultrasound and a load of other tests have confirmed that I have caused some of the problems.

Without a lengthy long story it has emerged that something in BO has triggered a reaction and it is not good, again wont bore you, but when I fessed up the doctor went mad and told me that if I persist in taking these things then the end result could be deadly.

I know loads on here swear by it but it does not suit all.

Its 2 steps forward and 2 back aagin So back to PM but as Jennifer said and others slowly.
Ian

[Heaven's Night]

No no, please do tell what about BO messed you up? I want to know.

And I think your doctor is lying or exaggerating. There's not a single known case of someone DYING from taking BO... Or any NBE from what I have uinderstood, the worst cases we know of are DVT scares, none of which have turned out fatal. This information would be very important to know.

There's little to nothing posted about possible complications with taking bovine ovary. Did someone prove that was the culprit?

[Heaven's Night]

Hello,

Quick question for Lara (please) As you know i am on BO and looks like there are some positive results, okay only small but some is better than nothing.

Is it ok to add Red Reishi into the mix.

Thanks
Ian

I had missed this, I think BO and RR would work fine together. But if you're getting problems from BO, maybe better stop it.

[IanW55]

Hi Lara, well spotted I should have said what was wrong.

Started with pains in my scrotum, had this pain for a couple years though I had pulled something, had test's they found nothing but it was getting worse, I also had pains in my lower stomach above my penis so had more tests only to discover that I now have Varicocele which basically blocked veins.

Being a greedy person (only joking) both sides are faulty, I have grade 3 on the left and grade 2 on the right, I went for further tests including a full 100% blood anlysis and other scans.

My bloods came back abnormal, I had to declare what I was taking, the consultant said the stuff I am taking has given me Gyno and I am screwing up my endo system which could be fatal.

Yesterday I had a full spectrum Hormone blood test done to find out what is going on, they are not happy but it is my choice, not sure what to do.
Ian

Thanks for asking Lara